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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by loupgarou » Wed Jul 06, 2016 11:57 am

tempestfan wrote:Lindberg either retained a Sea King mould, or had it returned, as they issued it around 1990. Possibly the Lindberg/Heller/Humbrol relationship is convoluted ?

We may have had this in the worst box art thread, but the original (?) Lindberg art is wonderfully naive, though it seems technically a nice piece of art.


What are they doing? Dropping anti-submarine torpedoes on a Apollo capsule? :o :shock:
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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by frogman » Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:08 pm

Classic Claus! Having gone to the trouble of digging these kits out and photographing them at least let's have some relevant discussion here. Sea Kings be damned! :P
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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by JC Carbonel » Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:15 pm

It seems this boxart was by John Steel, so not the worst artist in the world !

Returning to the Humbrol-Lindberg-Heller link :

1°) first time I see the pre-Heller Humbrol issues. thanks Sean

2°) I am not sure these were pre-Heller acquisitions :
From my Heller book :
" En 1984 c'est une série de véhicules de travaux publics WABCO qui fut commercialisée sous la bannière Bobkit. Leur échelle, 1/40, trahissait cependant aux yeux des spécialistes une reprise de moules Lindberg. A la suggestion de Humbrol, L. Brisard s’était déplacé à Chicago pour inspecter les moules de la Lindberg Line qui traversait alors une mauvaise passe et était prête à en vendre pas cher. Il en ressortit la gamme de véhicules travaux publics qui fut intégrée aux Bobcat/Bobkits. En fait c'est à ces modèles que l'on doit en partie la création de la gamme Bobcat/Bobkit, Heller ayant refusé d'intégrer ces kits à sa gamme principale. Quant au bateau pirate phosphorescent proposé par Humbrol à cette époque il fut simplement refusé par Philippe Jourdan qui ne voulait pas intégrer pareille « chose » dans la très sérieuse gamme Marine. Cet achat de moule par Humbrol fut assez mal perçu car il révélait aux yeux de Heller des difficultés d’appréciation par l’équipe Humbrol, de ce qu’était la maquette"

in English :
"in 1984 appeared under the Bobkit banner a series of civil engineering vehicles. Their scale proved they had been sourced elsewhere. Upon Humbrol's suggestion, Louis Brisard, Heller's factory manager, went to Chicago to inspect Lindberg tools. Lindberg had need of cash and was ready to sell tooling at low prices. The result of this move was the range of civil engineering vehicles. Actually these models were the origin of the Bobcat/kit range because Heller refused to integrate them into the main kit range. And regarding the glow-in-the-dark pirate ship, Philippe Jourdan, Heller's head of product development, just turned it down as he refused to have such a "Thing" in the very serious Marine range. Those tools bought by Humbrol was badly received by Heller because it seemed to prove the Humbrol team did not know what was a model kit"

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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by tempestfan » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:22 pm

frogman wrote:Classic Claus! Having gone to the trouble of digging these kits out and photographing them at least let's have some relevant discussion here. Sea Kings be damned! :P


Bobkit Construction vehicles = ex-Lindberg.
Bobkit SH-3A = reportedly ex-Lindberg.

Construction vehicles remain with Heller in 2016.
SH-3A reissued by Lindberg ca. 1990.
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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by JC Carbonel » Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:51 pm

Bobkit Construction vehicles = ex-Lindberg. = today inprinted "Heller"
Bobkit SH-3A = reportedly ex-Lindberg = never issued by Heller (either as Heller or as Bobkit)

I am begining to suspect the name change from Cat to Kit supposedly to avoid confusion with the DIY / art sets was actually a way for Heller to distentiate itself from Humbrol.

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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by Don » Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:27 pm

tempestfan wrote:
frogman wrote:Classic Claus! Having gone to the trouble of digging these kits out and photographing them at least let's have some relevant discussion here. Sea Kings be damned! :P


Bobkit Construction vehicles = ex-Lindberg.
Bobkit SH-3A = reportedly ex-Lindberg.

Construction vehicles remain with Heller in 2016.
SH-3A reissued by Lindberg ca. 1990.


The Lindberg photo box of the SH-3A is probably much newer than 1990...from the looks of it I'd guess it's from the J. Lloyd era of countless reissues about 10 years ago. This was the Lindberg owner that came after Craft House and before Round 2.
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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by frogman » Wed Jul 06, 2016 5:19 pm

tempestfan wrote:
frogman wrote:Classic Claus! Having gone to the trouble of digging these kits out and photographing them at least let's have some relevant discussion here. Sea Kings be damned! :P


Bobkit Construction vehicles = ex-Lindberg.
Bobkit SH-3A = reportedly ex-Lindberg.

Construction vehicles remain with Heller in 2016.
SH-3A reissued by Lindberg ca. 1990.


Yes, I followed your train of thought, but knew it would lead to a discussion of the Lindberg Sea King in this Heller civil engineering vehicles thread. Maybe that conversation would be better held in the Lindberg thread or even the Humbrol model kits subforum, which sees very little traffic.
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Re: Heller civil engineering vehicles

PostPosted by JC Carbonel » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:35 am

Yes my original request was to ascertain the life of these three (?) kits before they came to Heller ...

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